2007年10月10日 星期三

好康的來了



好康的來了!!

雖然對台灣的朋友們可能比較抱歉一點...

身為藝術總監的朋友
在這裡跟大家大力推薦2007-2008樂季的里昂鋼琴音樂節!

詳細的節目單
大家可以參閱音樂節的網站

法國有名的鋼琴音樂節當然很多
不過里昂鋼琴音樂節在鋼琴家的選擇上很豐富
在音樂類型上的安排上也很精彩

我自己對很多場都有興趣
唯一比較害怕的是 Jean-François Zygel的那場
他有時講得不錯,有時話多到快讓我抓狂
(所以正在考慮中... >.<)

買套票的話
跟在台灣的超天價音樂會相比
真的是太太太便宜了
(學生還有優待學生價...而開演前的折扣就不用我提了...)
場地是對小編制音樂會來說非常難得的好場地
Salle Molière

在里昂附近的朋友們
或是會到里昂附近玩的朋友們
如果對鋼琴音樂有興趣
不妨有空來聽場音樂會吧!!

33 則留言:

漂泊的蝴蝶 提到...

只有四個字要說
我~~討~~厭~~你~~
(淚奔)

petitmm 提到...

??

為啥??
要怪要怪主辦人阿?

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wayfarer(遠道者) 提到...

時間分得好開.... 還好到時候可以開車車
不然每次跑一趟,光火車錢就比票價貴多了

真不知該買套票,還是硬著頭皮每次去裝可愛假裝不知年齡限制... @@

算了mm馬你決定好要聽哪幾場再跟我說吧... 基本上我都可以去

(po完這篇會不會讓有人更不爽... =.=;; )

petitmm 提到...

呵呵

既然有人自動想被討厭
那大家快去討厭遠道者~

@@

辦音樂節是很辛苦的事
特別是要辦夠水準的音樂節
曲目我也都很有興趣
應要求
我現在是盡量想都能去聽
套票也在手上了
(我願意支持的音樂會是絕對會買票的!!)
不過看時間就是了

(其實是如果不去會被追殺...)

漂泊的蝴蝶 提到...

(這是怨靈飄來飄去......)

為什麼你們可以聽這個,我最多只能選聽蕭邦二三號奏鳴曲。(對,你沒看錯,這是同一場音樂會開出的曲目)

(自暴自棄ing......)

wayfarer(遠道者) 提到...

為什麼你不去會被追殺 =.=?

我可能還是不買套票了
到時你有想去的場次再跟我說一下吧

petitmm 提到...

因為藝術總監
當著我的面說...

“你有種就不要來!!"

>.<

旁邊還有謎之聲不停的跟我碎碎念
“買套票好阿,快先拿好位置阿~“
“人家都好心找你去聽了,有機會就去阿“
每天被人從早抓著耳朵念到晚

就這樣...報告完畢

petitmm 提到...

蝴蝶...

我只能說“同情你“
這樣的開法真是勇氣可佳
通常該是狠角色...

應該是說隨著年齡越來越大
我越來越膽小了
都是很精彩的曲目壓~

可是2加3不會太短?
沒有其他的東東??

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漂泊的蝴蝶 提到...

開頭是幻想波蘭......:P

我真的不知道為什麼大家都這麼興奮,坦白說看到這樣的曲目排列,任何一個會在這裡台上出沒的人,我都不會想聽......

我是覺得有必要這樣整聽眾嗎?

TITO 提到...

This is awesome!
Forgive me for using English, but my typing in mandarin is just awfully slow...
Hi, guys, I am Tim, a newbie here.
I was searching for concert information in Paris and bumped into here via the "pleyel" keyword!!!
I am currently a piano student at Auckland uni in New Zealand, and I was looking for any good concerts happening in Paris during Jan and Feb in 2008, cuz I am planning a trip to Europe, yay!
I found out about the Barenboïm concert in Pleyel hall on 31/1/08, but couldnt get any tickets of course. I am just wondering if anyone can share their experience of lining in the queue on the day of concert in Paris? Any tips would be great!

PS Wayfarer: I left a similar msg at your page, hope you will be able to dig it out, ta! sorry for being repetitive.

My Email & MSN: titoakl@yahoo.com

petitmm 提到...

Hi Tim

沒問題
搜英語也口以通

巴倫波英的票的確賣光光了
因為兩場都不剩
所以我覺得到時候如果你要去排
其實是看運氣
不過搞不好有人沒法去
那運氣好就可以拿到票
(這種情形的確發生過我身上...)

我覺得如果時間ok
是可以去排排看(或是觀察被放鴿子的人)
(基本上,本人極可能做狠事...)
如果是第一次到巴黎
其實就算排不到
時間還夠去吃飯逛夜景
不會那麼難安排

如果你特別想聽鋼琴音樂會
其實可以試試1/28在Chatelet的Nelson Freire
雖然他老人家不是法國鋼琴家
不過Chatelet建議一去
(就跟有空可以去Garnier聽歌劇一樣...
是愛樂遊客的好行程...)

其他的由於我不太知道你喜歡怎樣類型的音樂
也不知道對演奏人選的喜好
你可以利用Fnac的網站查詢
http://www.fnacspectacles.com/
(好像沒英文板)
點Thematiques下的Classique/Opera
基本上就可以看到從現在開始的各種節目

如果你是以跑完音樂會為志願的死忠愛樂旅遊者
除了各大交響樂團,各個歌劇院
待在巴黎的話
還有很多教堂的音樂會(特別是管風琴)
(沒聽到Cabaille-cole的話該打屁股)
一些音樂院的音樂會等等很多東西可以聽
(請參閱每週一期的pariscope以及音樂院的網站)

別的省分也有很多音樂節
基本的資訊可以在fnac網站找得到

這是大概的狀況

先預先祝你的歐洲之旅愉快~

TITO 提到...

Hi Petitmm:

Thank you so much for your reply! It's very thorough and certainly provides me with some hope that I might get "lucky" (or extra lucky if needed, if the concert is really really popular) on the day of the Brahms concert...
I guess I can just hope that afternoon is gonna be both cold and raining so nobody could be bothered to wait in the line in front of the box office.

Also, I have been reading some of the posts on this website, they are just fantastic... It's really fun to read. I really liked this quote: "看起來醜的指法,聽起來也會醜!!"

Somehow the hand gesture anticipate the kind of sound we will be making
and it is so true~

I am still fighting to get healthy hand gestures for my last movement of Les Adieux sonata so it will eventually sound healthy enough with lots of vitality hopefully:P

Regarding my trip, I will be in Europe during 21/1/08 ~ 9/2/08, spending time in Spain and Paris and Vienna. I have found some concerts, using the fnac website, too (with some struggle, cuz I have no faintest idea of French unfortunately).

Would you mind if I show you a list of these concerts and maybe make some suggestions?

Thank you again and have a nice day there in the other side of the world!

Tim

petitmm 提到...

HiHi Tim

不用客氣
搞不好在門口時看到某人一臉被放鴿子相
他就自動把票給你了...
Well, wish you all good luck!

你可以把想聽的東西放上來
這裡還蠻多人可以給意見的
雖然“有時“很“直率“
不過絕對是真誠的意見
(呵呵,重申一次壞人其實是我...@@)

唉...說到指法
今天才被修理了一整個下午...
剛看到遠先生的留言
讓我頭超痛的!

Fnac的網站改了板
卻讓我覺得越改越爛
別擔心
就算會法文也覺得很難用
這不是語言的問題
而是單純設計爛的問題
還是個大問題
>.<

在我前去用暴力制止遠先生和蝴蝶小姐前
先祝你練琴愉快!

(告別左看右看橫看豎看都真是首好曲子!!)

petitmm 提到...

蝴蝶

居然忘了回你

本來想說的是...
加了幻想波蘭
我的心情是有好一點...

這算是傳說中的自我安慰嗎?

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TITO 提到...

Hi Petitmm:

Yup, end of year exam is coming, it will be my last, too, cuz I am graduating this year.

I will stay in Paris from 30th Jan til 5th Feb, and then fly over to Vienna.

Here is a list of the concerts I have found so far...
(as regarding to the Church Organ and Ballet, I will be quite interested, too. Maybe you can make some recommendations? I really dont know where to look for relevant information and also my lack of knowledge about them...:P)

1/31/2008 12:30 MUSEE DU LOUVRE - AUDITORIUM
Accès prioritaire 75001 PARIS FRANCE
Piano
ANDREI KOROBEINIKOV

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1/31/2008 20:00 AUDITORIUM - MUSEE D'ORSAY
QUATUOR DEBUSSY - C. ICART
1 rue La Légion d'Honneur 75007 PARIS FRANCE

Alexandre Charpentier et la musique
En lien avec l'expostition Alexandre Charpentier

Quatuor Debussy
Christine Icart, harpe

Gabriel Fauré Impromptu pour harpe ;
La Châtelaine en sa tour, pour harpe
André Caplet Divertissement à l'espagnole, pour harpe ;
Conte fantastique d'aprés Edgar Poe pour harpe et quatuor : Le Masque de la mort rouge
Claude Debussy Deux danses (Danses sacrée et profanes) pour harpe et quatuor à cordes ;
Quatuor à cordes en sol mineur, op. 10
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02/02/2008 20:00 Théâtre des Champs-Élysées
Piano
Denis Matsuev
Liszt : Sonate en si mineur
Chopin : Ballade n° 4 en fa mineur
Moussorgski : Tableaux d’une exposition

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02/03/2008 16:00 Pleyel Hall Paris
London Symphony Orchestra
Sir John Eliot Gardiner - Maria Joao Pires

Beethoven
Ouverture des Créatures de Prométhée
Concerto pour piano n° 4
Symphonie n° 3 "Eroica"

漂泊的蝴蝶 提到...

我是覺得,法國人的網站,思考邏輯跟我們不太一樣.....常常會找不到想要的東西。
(我幾乎每次都要動用暴力搜索法 0rz)

說到陰魂不散的告別
(為什麼我這樣說,因為這是我這次上課的「聊天」標題之一 0rz)
這真的是首好曲子

不過,真的是,很難......
(某Q還是說,我不要聽妳彈小貝op.101.....)

不過彈完poulenc(如果真的有這麼一天!?!?!?),應該要換德布西或是拉威爾了

開始幫忙想吧......

漂泊的蝴蝶 提到...

至於音樂會,我一向秉持旅行就是要聽,就算彈的再怎麼爛再怎麼炸,看音樂廳內裝聽音樂廳聲響也勉強會回本,預算許可之下寧可錯殺也不願放過......雖然說我最近的口味變得有點怪。

不過這四場,最後一場對我的吸引力最低,如果你沒聽過LSO的現場,可以試試看,可能因為我之前住倫敦,LSO對我的吸引力很低......而且我不喜歡貝多芬第四號鋼琴協奏曲......

時間許可的話,我一定會聽的,反而是豎琴,因為那是整場的法國音樂,去法國不聽點法國音樂有點怪......

還有兩場鋼琴,曲目已經出來的,要看一下我的行程是不是排的很緊,如果很累的話,我通常不傾向聽這麼重的曲目,因為會讓我昏迷.....

btw,說是這樣說啦,但我通常會三場全殺 0rz

TITO 提到...

Hi Papillon:

Hahaha, I would like to wonder what exactly is 暴力搜索法.....

As for the haunted Farewell sonata, yes, it's killing me... But I suppose it's a good way to end my 3 years at music school (though it's a bit distorted and interrupted).

Here's my programme for end of year by the way, uhm, wish me luck...=__=
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Bach Prelude + fugue C major bk II
Beethoven Les Adieux
Ross Harris 5 piano piece (I bet nobody ever heard of it:P)
Debussy preludes:
Les sons et les parfums blah blah
Ce qu'a bu le vent d'ouest
Liszt Hungarian rhapsody no. 11
---------------------------------

As for LSO, hahaha I am not sure, I wanna go because of Maria Joao Pires...although I know a good pianist only makes up to 1/3 of a good concert in this case:P

漂泊的蝴蝶 提到...

暴力搜索法的意思是,把整個網站,每一頁,拆開來找,一直到找到想要的東西為止,通常是最耗時最有效的方式。

我有個同學,以暴力法聞名的,他可以有耐心的從google搜尋內,把九百多頁不同的東西找完 XD

而且法國的網站有個怪癖,如果是多國語言的,常常會除了法語之外的語言,通通只有骨架,連基本的內容都沒有,這也是很討厭的......

其實普遍來說,歐洲的網頁架構都不能算是user friendly 的,剛開始的時候會很不習慣,後來,是不得不習慣......

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預祝你音樂會成功喔 ^^
一切順利

不過,這裡有一堆怪人,他們聽的東西都~很~偏~僻~,我承認你說的我沒聽過,不過,等下就會有神人等級的出現 = =+

問我這種幼幼班的意義不大啊(笑)

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所以,就四場都殺啊,這是最好的辦法 XD

LSO倒不是不好的樂團,他們的穩定度也很夠(試過LPO你就會知道LSO比較有保障),只是說,我不是很喜歡他們的基本聲響,而且指揮對他們的影響很大。通常會建議沒聽過的人要聽聽看,好歹人家也是著名樂團,聽了之後,喜歡不喜歡,再說囉。

好好玩喔,巴黎很有樂趣的。

(我還是不停的想到我沒什麼好下場的夢桑米歇爾......)

漂泊的蝴蝶 提到...
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petitmm 提到...

不好意思

去開會
真的太忙了
現在手上也有些東西要處理

我會盡快想辦法回應

petitmm 提到...

關於音樂會

我覺得既然現在沒有時間上的重曡
那都可以去阿

目前我覺得比較有趣的也是在奧塞
從地點上來説就蠻好玩的
聼聼Christine Icart的現場也很有趣
雖然我更有興趣的是另一隻...

同時我也蠻想聼Pires的貝多芬第四
這也是有趣的選擇

除了這些外
我覺得有一場也可以試試
2月3號晚上在加尼葉Palais Garnier(老的巴黎歌劇院)的室内樂

對第一次到巴黎的遊客來説
我覺得到加尼葉去聼場音樂會還蠻不錯的
畢竟光是參觀就要花錢
聼音樂會是可以順便好好參觀個夠
歌劇院的香檳也蠻好喝的

雖然是歌劇院的二缐
陣容我覺得還可以
其實比較擔心你對曲目的接受度
有的人會怕魏本

如果你對現代音樂接受度夠高
甚至是狂熱(那魏本根本太通俗了)
我覺得是不錯的選擇

各個教堂禮拜天都有彌撒和音樂會
所以不用擔心
只是看你想去哪裏聼
到時候逛逛把節目單都先拿在手上
再想想要聼啥就好了

遠道者之前有寫些心得
你可以看看
我前幾天剛去聼了個30分鐘音樂會
如果有力氣
這場又能排上想寫的隊伍的話
應該最近就會寫寫

有看到啥好主意我再補充嘍~

petitmm 提到...

這個

誰說到法國一定要聼法國音樂
我最近聼的通通不是耶

讓我想到最近看到些好玩的對話
法派來法派去的
還真是好笑
笑到肚子痛...
人無聊起來
還真是啥都寫得出來

我很讚成彈Ross Harris
如果是本人指導的就更好了
演奏家和作曲家本來就不該是切割開來的關係
或許在今天的演奏家養成上
我們少了很多環節
和作曲家多交流
會有很多珍貴的收穫
(有很多時候甚至不是單純演出上的)

這組曲子我没聼過
希望有機會能聼到~


居然膽敢把我的愛曲打上blah blah
還有不是bu是vu
(交換過來還真的蠻好笑的~)
小心我放狗咬人哦!
:P

P.S.其實節目單上不要打錯就好,這是最近無聊的職業本能,自我反省中...

TITO 提到...

Petitmm:

My apologies for typing random words like "blah blah" for Debussy - it's just a pure reflection of my frustration trying to pronounce these French titles in the correct way. It makes me feel a single tongue might not be enough for one's lifetime use...:P As for the "bu", it's a pure typo ><, since b and v are really good neighbors on the keyboard hahaha!

As for the Webern concert, yeah the venue looks interesting enough. I am not a particular fan of so called modern music, I often find that I can only "begin" to appreciate them once I get to learn them (i.e. playing them on piano). Having said that, I played the Vox Balaenae by George Crumb earlier this year, which I rather enjoyed at the end (it's seriously scary to play with mask on and under dimmed blue stage light though)... ^___^

TITO 提到...

Petitmm:

Oh, and as for the four concerts, I think I will go to all four of them. I have got the ticket for the Théâtre des Champs-Élysées concert. Just got some questions for the rest 3 concerts if you wouldn't mind answering for me... ^^

1. The Pires concert, I was trying to book the ticket on the Pleyel hall website, but the only ticket available online is the expensive ones (65 euro/person, and the seat is right on the first row and I can't make any change....) I looked for the booking on the Fnac website, they do have cheaper tickets for the same concert, but they charge 10% more I think... I am just wondering if it will be better to buy the tickets on the day of concert for better value/seat? or if there is any other way...

2. I am still hoping I can go to the Brahms/Barenboïm concert on 30th or 31st... Would you know how I can find out when the box office will be open and when I should go and join the queue on the day or even if anyone who's gonna join the queue, too? (cuz I will only be arriving in Paris on the 30th at 5pm...=____=

Ta~ and hope everything you are currently busy doing goes well for you over there!

petitmm 提到...

Tim

別擔心
不過這首曲子是好曲子
(迷之聲:踏板會踩死人就是了...)

上次有人踩了一次“奧義“
我在旁邊用力的拍手
真是踩的太美了
他問我(必問的問題):“那請告訴我,我是怎樣踩的?“
我白目的回答:“實在聽不出來...“

沒想到有更白目的答案:
“我自己也不知道,其實是亂踩的...!!“

@@(現場一片靜默)

(只有冷風吹過...真是冷...)

我一直覺得像鯨魚之聲這種東西
聽現場通常還蠻好玩的
(當然到某種狀態我會達到極限...)
可是我對帶面具這種常常會心生畏懼...
“萬一彈一彈帶子掉了怎辦?“
(其實了不起面具掉下來也不會有事...不過真的有詭異心裡障礙...)

我沒那麼喜歡魏本
(有時候還真的太無聊了...)
不過我還蠻愛亨德密特的
所以這場如果要我挑
我還是會聽得蠻高興的

如果你對當代作曲家接受度還蠻高的
(有很多當代作曲家寫的東西還是很棒!)
那倒是可以去

petitmm 提到...

關於音樂會

Pires的那場
剛剛我幫你看發覺更慘
Pleyel的系統只剩85歐的
我試了concertclassique訂票也只有92歐的票
(也是得加價...)
所以只有fnac還在賣稍微便宜的位置了
因為我不知道這場會不會滿
我真的不敢跟你打包票現場買不買得到...

排隊的經驗
官方說法票口大概是1個小時前會把沒人領的票回收
30分鐘前會開賣特價票(官方說法是未滿歲28或滿65歲)
不過排隊的狀況完全看當天的節目而定...
真的很難說
有時候有些地方還會跟你說根本不要排了...

所以我的建議是有空就去試試看
但是搶到當超幸運囉
(有看到遲疑的路人,就直接問了)
原則上如果你是30號5pm到CDG機場
我覺得那天真的會太趕...
(加上去旅館放行李,check in...我想會累死...)
你可以看當時的情況來決定

加油!!

TITO 提到...

Petitmm:

Debussy is great, the 2 preludes provide quite nice contrasts for my program. Pedaling...it has always been a struggling part of my piano playing, but it has been improved a bit through the use of driving a manual car :P

The mask for George Crumb, it is definitely scary! I always wanted to tie the mask tighter, but if it's too tight, it gets very distracting and hard to breathe... Plus I have to move around in and out the piano and grabbing tools, at the end of the performance, my mask of Zorro was completely soaked....=___= However, the pianist doesn't have to whistle in the piece, for that, I am 200% grateful to Mr. Crumb...

Ross Harris, unfortunately, he himself is not teaching me, but my teacher is the one who helped with the piano notation for the pieces. So I can stare at him with a doubtful gaze from time to time - giving him an "uhm....what do you mean here, and there????" look during the lessons.

TITO 提到...

Also for the concerts:

You are absolutely right, it would just be impossible to get to the concert on 30th, and would be quite unfair for my friend traveling with me. 31st might be a bit difficult as well, cuz there are 2 concerts on that day already, plus it would be my first time visiting Paris so I better spend my time visiting the place a bit... in other words... 殘念.....hahaha

Now, I am sorry to keep asking questions about tickets, but the FNAC website (plus the Museum D'ORSAY and DU LOUVRE websites) are just driving me mad. I have a feeling that I have to book the 3 concerts tickets through the FNAC website as the only option left (after fighting with the websites of the 2 museums and killing most of my scarcely living brain cells).
And I just couldn't buy any ticket through the FNAC website~ Uhm, do people need a FNAC membership to buy the tickets????? There is no FNAC in New Zealand, unfortunately...

petitmm 提到...

Hi Tim

我剛剛幫你確定過了
Fnac並不需要加入會員
但是你必須在網站上先註冊
有帳號後才能購票

我想你要選的是到法國後再到Fnac領票
Carte Bancaire > Retrait en magasin
記得領票時要帶你定票時所用的信用卡
否則可能沒辦法領喔

奧賽可以用傳真訂票
http://www.musee-orsay.fr/en/visits/auditorium/bookings.html?S=0
不過保險起見
Fnac對在國外的人來說
可能還是比較好的方法

又忘了說了
羅浮宮下面的餐廳其實還算不錯
雖然有點小貴
也沒有啥特別的景致就是了

加油~
先預祝訂票順利!

TITO 提到...

Hi Petitmm:

Thank you for the advice. I have bought all the tickets (including the Webern concert) except for the piano concert in Du Lourve...

I am just wondering if I can get into the museum to listen to the concert with the concert ticket only or do I have to buy extra museum ticket for getting into Du Lourve?

Hope everything is going well for you, I am quite busy doing the exams recently...:P Just played Brahms violin sonata op.100 the other day for accompany assessment, such a wonderful piece~

Tim

petitmm 提到...

hihi Tim

對不起到現在才有小空檔囘覆
我的時間表最近已經爆滿了
偏偏好像又要罷工
為了年底前我能把課全教完
手頭上又有工作在趕
我最近只能拼了!

羅浮宮的音樂會我並沒去過
不過音樂廳的位置是在金字塔下
所以我想如果要參觀
還是要再買票
(餐廳吃飯如果參觀一定得再買票這我確定…
而音樂廳就在隔壁)
你可能還要再打聼看看哦

多來聊聊合作的趣事吧
鋼琴家也不該是孤獨的生物
室内樂完全是音樂裏有趣的天地呢
先預祝你考試順利 !!

TITO 提到...

Hihi Petitmm:

I can finally make my reply:P Guess we can have a little competition on how much delays our conversation can endure hahaha......

All my exams are OVER finally, my recital was ok, apart from some memory lapses for dear Beethoven >< Surprisingly, Debussy was probably the forte of the night. However, have been quite busy since - was trying to learn Richard Strauss's cello sonata and another spanish piece for accompanying a friend in two weeks - which turned out to be a very bad mistake....Orz

But I do enjoy playing chamber music though, always fun listening to each other's music - and perhaps laugh at each other, too! hahaha....

Tim